
There is a war raging across the United States on the role of religion in public life, and Ryan Walters is at the center of it.
As Oklahoma’s elected official in charge of public education, the conservative Republican and outspoken Christian has been at the forefront of encouraging closer entanglement between government and religion when it comes to one of the most contentious places of all: public schools.
“What I’m trying to make sure is our kids understand American history,” Walters said in an interview in his office in Oklahoma City, which is decorated with images of one of his heroes, Winston Churchill.
“I do want them to understand American greatness. I want them to understand American exceptionalism. I want them to have the freedom to express their religious beliefs in schools,” he added. “I believe that’s very important. I believe that’s been absolutely gutted from our school system.”
Under Walters’ watch, the state approved the first ever religious virtual public charter school, a provocative move that is now before the Supreme Court, which will hear oral arguments on the constitutionality of the move next month. He has also proposed placing Bibles in schools, a move that was recently blocked by the state Supreme Court, and is seeking to add more Christian-related themes to the curriculum, including information about the Ten Commandments.
At the heart of the religious school case and others like it is the Constitution’s First Amendment — and two provisions about freedom of religion that are in tension with each other. They are the establishment clause, which forbids the government from endorsing one religion over another or setting up its own church, and the free exercise clause, which says everyone has a right to express their own religious beliefs.
Generations of children were taught in school about how Thomas Jefferson said in an 1802 letter that there is “a wall of separation between church and state.” In the past, the Supreme Court interpreted that sentiment broadly, and government officials, including those running public schools, followed suit. Any actions that could potentially be interpreted as a sign that the government endorsed religion were largely off-limits.
Now, the religious school case from Oklahoma could change the longtime understanding of the First Amendment throughout the U.S.
Walters and others like him believe that the Supreme Court got it wrong in the past. They point out that the First Amendment itself says nothing about a “wall of separation” and focus more on their rights under the free exercise clause.
As for the Supreme Court, it now has a 6-3 conservative majority that strongly favors religious rights and in a series of recent decisions has strengthened the free exercise clause, sometimes at the expense of the establishment clause.
But even in deep-red Oklahoma, where President Donald Trump won every county in last year’s election, not everyone is on board with Walters’ hope to water down the establishment clause.
Notably, state Attorney General Gentner Drummond, a fellow Republican, vigorously opposes the religious schools plan, to the extent that he filed his own legal challenge against it, which is what led to the Supreme Court’s involvement.
“We deserve intellectual honesty on this issue. It’s about religious indoctrination,” he said in an interview.
Drummond agreed that attempts to allow prayers in schools could be next on the agenda if the Supreme Court endorses the school proposal.
“The Supreme Court can decide how far it wants to go,” Drummond said.
Walters, a former high school teacher, strongly supports the charter school plan, which would funnel taxpayer dollars directly to an entity controlled by the Catholic Church.
But, as his Bible distribution plan shows, he doesn’t want to stop there.
He told NBC News he also believes the Supreme Court’s landmark 1962 Engel v. Vitale ruling that outlawed prayers in public schools should be overturned. The court held in a case arising from New York that the reading of a nondenominational prayer in class, in which students were not required to participate, violated the establishment clause.
The ruling is considered to be such a milestone that it features in high school Advanced Placement government classes, which Walters himself taught, and in the federal judiciary’s own educational materials.
“I think they were dead wrong on that. Individuals have the right to express their religious beliefs. That does not stop in a school building,” Walters said of the decision.
‘Aha moment’
The Covid-19 pandemic, which forced schools across the nation to quickly move operations online, was the genesis of the plan to start a Catholic virtual charter school, according to Michael Scaperlanda, a former law professor who is now chancellor of the Archdiocese of Oklahoma City.
There are already brick-and-mortar Catholic schools in Oklahoma, but they are in urban areas in what is a largely rural state.
But the ease with which schools were able to pivot to online education was an “aha moment” for church officials, Scaperlanda said in an interview at the grand, recently constructed shrine in Oklahoma City that honors Stanley Rother, an Oklahoma-born Catholic priest who was killed in Guatemala.
At that point, Oklahoma’s Statewide Charter School Board was already established and had approved both in-person and virtual nonreligious schools. The church saw an opportunity both to set up a virtual school and find a way to fund it.
It was obvious it would spark a legal challenge, but in consultation with Nicole Garnett, a professor at Notre Dame Law School who along with other conservatives has long argued in favor of religious charter schools, the archdiocese thought it was worth a shot.
One consideration was the Supreme Court’s full-throated support of religious rights.
“Given the fact that we had this virtual charter opportunity in Oklahoma coupled with the way the court was looking at religious liberty, it looked like an opportune time to apply,” Scaperlanda said.
“We weren’t looking for the fight, but we were prepared for it if it came,” he added.
At the time, the plan for what was named St. Isidore of Seville Catholic Virtual School had the backing of Oklahoma’s then attorney general, John O’Connor. At the request of the charter school board, he submitted a legal opinion in December 2022 saying that in his view a religious charter school would be lawful.
An application jointly proposed by the Oklahoma City and Tulsa archdioceses was officially submitted in early 2023, and the school was approved that summer. As a result of the litigation, it has yet to open its virtual doors.
The school’s lawyers argue that under the free exercise clause, the state cannot block the proposal, while opponents say that the establishment clause forbids Oklahoma from funding the new school.
Drummond, who took office in January 2023, filed his lawsuit in the fall of 2023. He won before the Oklahoma Supreme Court, which said the proposal was barred under both the Oklahoma and U.S. constitutions. That prompted the charter school board and the school to appeal to the Supreme Court.
The opposition is not limited to Drummond. Another lawsuit came via several individual plaintiffs who oppose state-funded religious schools. They are represented by Americans United for Separation of Church and State, a legal group that advocates for keeping religion out of government.
I’m not a Christian. Nevertheless I have deeply contemplated spiritual beliefs, which are peaceful and extremely important to me. I feel very strongly that there absolutely should be a ‘wall’ separating church and state in this country.
I don’t say there is no wisdom in Christianity. But if Christians believe that all spiritual beliefs other then theirs are forms of Satanism, they’re flat out wrong about that and abysmally ignorant. I can’t care which “scripture” tells them that falsehood or what religion the early settlers in America followed — the hubris of that notion is breathtaking! Let them believe what they like, but they’re not going to indoctrinate me or mine with that self-righteous dogma, nor would I accept that from any other religion.
I see these plans for Christian indoctrination in public schools as a steep slippery slope to theocracy, which would be absolutely unacceptable. I understand the concern that people have about lawlessness and children growing up without respect for any guiding principles. That does not mean that all children should have Christianity (or any religion) imposed on them in state institutions.
Why not develop a formal set of simple ethical principles not tied to any particular religion, and teach those to the young? It should always be strictly the prerogative of families to supplement that with their own additional beliefs and traditions.
Separation of Church and State, means the government can not impose a one way religion made by government to impose on us. So now they have decided to impose their Non beliefs on us. What a bunch of malarkey and fools, running our Republic!, especially their unbelief to Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!! Pray, Pray, Pray!!!
Easy solution: end state education.
I believe in Ryan Wallters in the religion in education and the Constitution’s First Amendment . We need a religion in our schools.